rebekah brooks, however, likes david cameron, and she set out to convince rupert he ought to go with cameron. and one of the things here, she went to cameron and said you hire our guy, andy coulson. if you do that, i can help bring rupert around, and she succeeded. >> and he hired the prime minister, the candidate of prime minister, hired her, hired coulson, then ended up getting what, the respect or what? how would you describe how rupert responded to that deal? >> actually, rupert responded grudgingly. he still doesn't like david cameron, he liked gordon brown, but rebekah and his son james wanted this, this was their show, he was trying to be hands off, and plus he got a man in number 10 downing street, and that was a victory. >> tomorrow, you have the high case, this case is going before a parliamentary committee.